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Welcome back to the all new digital rage. I'm Jeff the producer here at Byer Company.
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In this episode I discuss a 2025 trend in news and in my meetings about companies focusing
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on CAPEX in 2025. I define digital marketing tasks that qualify as CAPEX to stretch your
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marketing budget. So let's go.
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All right, so let's jump into it today. So we're going to be talking about making our marketing
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dollars work smarter. Yeah, not harder in 2025. Right. Specifically talking capital expenses
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and digital marketing. Exactly. You want to know where to put your money to get the biggest
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bang for your buck, right? For sure. So to help us out with this deep dive, we have this
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article called budgeting for 2025. Best capital expenses in digital marketing. Yes.
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By Jeff Byer published just last week on February 14th. That's right. Valentine's day.
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A great gift to the marketing community. Absolutely. And this is an interesting one. You know,
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Jeff runs Byer Co, the company that actually offers these whole marketing suites. He's not
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walking the walk. You're not just talking the talk. Exactly. Yeah, he's walking the walk.
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And one thing I really liked about this article is he doesn't just focus on like trying to
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sell you on his product. Right. He really dies into the bigger picture of digital marketing
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in 2025. How it's changing? How it's changing so rapidly. So rapidly and businesses need to
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adapt. Yeah. Or risk getting left behind. He keeps saying data is king. Yes. Data is king.
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But is that just a buzz word? Yeah. Where's their real meat to that? Thankfully, he does back
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it up. It gives this great example of a company that used analytics to completely revamped
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their email campaigns. You know, they went from a generic blast to everybody to super targeted
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messages based on what customers were actually browsing on their site. Right. Their click-through
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rate went up like 200%. Wow. Okay. So that's not just some vague concept then.
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It's really like so having the right data is like knowing the secret paths through a jungle
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instead of hacking through blindly. Yeah. I love that analogy. That's a great way to put
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it. It's about understanding your customer's journey and meeting them where they are. That's
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how you get a most off of your marketing spend. Okay. And speaking of working smarter, the
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article also dives into automation. Yes. And I'm thinking about all those hours I spend
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on like repetitive tasks. Yeah. It's a huge time saver. Right. By your particularly highlights
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CRM systems. Okay. Not just as a way to store contacts, but to segment them based on behavior.
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Okay. So imagine this. Yeah. Your CRM automatically sends a welcome back email with a special
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offer if someone hasn't visited your site in a while. Now that's using automation strategically.
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Exactly. Not just sending the same message to everyone on your list. Right. Okay. So
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we've got data guiding our actions automation, taking care of the busy work. What's next?
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Well, content, of course. Content is still king. I was kind of surprised by how much
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he emphasizes this. Yeah. Me too. You'd think in this age of all these flashy ads. Yeah.
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All the bells and whistles. Exactly. That content would be less important. Right. But it's
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the long game. It is. Think about it when you're searching for something online. Yeah. Are
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you more likely to click on a random ad or an article that actually answers your question
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and seems trustworthy? Totally. But content takes time and effort. Yeah. So how do you suggest
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people balance creating awesome content with all these other moving parts like data analysis
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and automation? Yeah. That's a great question. And that's where having a well-defined
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MarTech stack comes in. Okay. So your MarTech stack is basically the set of tools that you
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use. Mm-hmm. And buyer suggests thinking about it like a puzzle. Right. Each piece needs
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to fit together smoothly. Okay. So your analytics platform should talk to your email marketing
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tool which feeds into your content scheduling system. Okay. And so on. So you're saying it's
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not about having the most expensive tools but the ones that work well together. That's
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exactly it. You could have the fanciest CRM in the world. But if it's not integrated with
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your other systems. Right. You're not getting its full value. Okay. That makes a lot of
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said. It's about building a system, not just a collection of random tools. Yeah. Okay.
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So we've got data automation content and a killer MarTech stack. Right. What else does buyer
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have in store for us? We doesn't want you to get too comfortable. Okay. He stresses the
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importance of allocating a portion of your budget for experimentation. Okay. We're trying
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out new platforms and technologies. Okay. And he's not just talking about the obvious ones
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like TikTok. We'll spill the tea. What kind of platforms does he talk about? Well, he throws
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out some interesting ones. I think niche online communities. Maybe even virtual reality
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experiences down the line. Wow. But his point is that consumer preferences are always evolving.
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Right. What worked five years ago might be completely irrelevant today. That's a lot to
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wrap my head around. But it makes sense. Yeah. You can't just set it and forget it. Digital
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marketing is a constantly moving target. Exactly. And speaking of things that are constantly
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evolving. By our dedicates a significant portion of the article to AI. Okay. He argues that
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it's no longer judge the buzzword. Right. But a tool with real potential to enhance the
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customer experience. AI. It feels like it's everywhere these days. But how does it actually
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translate to better marketing? Well, buyer gives some really concrete examples. Okay.
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Think about personalized recommendations on e-commerce sites that AI at work. Okay.
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Or chatbots that can answer customer questions instantly 24/7. It's about using technology
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to make the customer journey smoother and more enjoyable. So it's not just about being
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trendy. It's about using AI to actually solve real problems for your customers. Absolutely.
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And buyer points out that it's not about replacing humans altogether. Okay. It's about
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freeing up your team to focus on the things that require creativity and strategic thinking.
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Mm-hmm. While AI handles the repetitive tasks. So it's like having a superpowered assistant
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that can analyze mountains of data, personalized messages, and even predict future trends.
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Pretty much. Wow. But here's the thing. Even with the best AI tools, you still need to
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be strategic. Okay. Buyers stress the importance of having a clear understanding of your goals
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and how AI can help you achieve them. So you're saying it's not about just throwing
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AI at every problem. Right. It's about using it strategically to amplify your existing
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efforts. Exactly. It's about finding the right balance between human ingenuity and technological
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power. Okay. And this brings us to another crucial point. Buyer makes the importance of
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regularly auditing and optimizing your MarTech stack. Okay. He calls it sharpening your tools.
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I like that. But what does that actually look like in practice? It's about taking a step
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back and evaluating your current tools and processes. Are they still serving your needs?
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Are they integrated effectively? Right. Are there new tools that could help you achieve
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your goals more efficiently? So it's like spring cleaning for your marketing
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tool kit. Yeah. You're getting rid of the clutter and making sure everything is in its
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right place. Exactly. And buyer stresses that this is an ongoing process. Okay. The digital
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marketing landscape is constantly evolving. So your MarTech stack needs to evolve with it.
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Right. But what about those of us who don't have massive budgets to play with? Yeah. That's
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a good point. Right. Not everyone can just go out and buy every shiny new marketing gadget.
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Right. Does buyer have any advice for those working with limited resources? He does. He's
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got a whole section dedicated to maximizing ROI with a smaller budget. Okay. And this is
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work. It's really interesting. So we're talking lean and mean marketing. Right. But still
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getting amazing results. Still crushing it. Tell me more. Okay. So buyer breaks it down into
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a few key strategies. Okay. First, he emphasizes focusing on strategic keywords. Okay. So instead
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of trying to rank for every possible term. Right. You zero in on the ones that your ideal
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customer is actually searching for. It's like fishing with the right bait instead of just
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casting a wide net and hoping for the best. Exactly. You gotta be targeted. Okay.
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Buyer also talks about the power of retargeting campaigns. Okay. Retargeting. You know how
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sometimes you look at something online. Yeah. And then it magically follows you around the
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internet. Exactly. That's retargeting. It can be a creepy. It can be a little creepy.
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But it works. Right. And buyer says it's a great way to reengage people who have already
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shown interest in your product or service. Okay. You know, it's like giving them a gentle
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nudge. Okay. So we've got strategic keywords. Retargeting. What else? Well, buyer's a big
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fan of what he called a test and learn approach. Okay. Which is about experimenting with different
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strategies and tactics, but in a controlled way. Okay. So you're not just throwing money
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at the wall and seeing what sticks. Right. So it's like running many experiments to see
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what works best for your specific audience. Exactly. It doesn't have to be complicated.
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Okay. It could be as simple as a bee testing different headlines on your website. Right.
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Or trying out different ad copy on social media. Okay. Just little tweaks. Little tweaks
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to see what resonates. Okay. And he also stresses the importance of optimizing landing pages
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and calls to action. Absolutely. Because you're driving all this traffic to your site.
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You want to make sure people actually convert. Yeah. You don't want to have a leaky bucket.
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Right. You know, all that effort bringing people in and then they just bounce. Exactly.
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So buyer gives some really practical tips on how to design landing pages that are clear,
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concise and compelling. Okay. It's all about making it as easy as possible for people to
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take the next step. So he covers a lot in this article. He does. He really does. If we had
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to boil it down to one key takeaway, what would you say is buyer's main message? I think
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it's about being adaptable and data driven. Okay. You know, the digital marketing landscape
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is constantly shifting. So you need to be willing to adjust your approach as needed.
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Okay. It's about being agile and responsive. So it's not about finding the one right answer
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because the answer is always changing. Exactly. Buyers advice is more about building a framework
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for making smart decisions based on data experimentation and a deep understanding of
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your audience. Okay. So it's not just like a one size fits all kind of approach. No,
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not at all. Right. Okay. And he encourages you to see your marketing budget as an investment,
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not just an expense. Yeah. That's a really important point. Right. Because when you think
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about it as an investment, it makes it feel less like gambling for sure and more like investing
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in your future success. And exactly. And buyer reminds us that even small businesses can
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achieve significant results with limited resources. Okay. It's about being strategic and focusing
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on the areas that will have the biggest impact. So it's not about keeping up with the
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Joneses and trying to do everything everyone else is doing. No. It's about finding what works
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best for you and your business. 100%. You'll find your nation own it. Okay. And he's
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very clear that this is an ongoing journey, not a destination. Right. You know, the tools
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and technologies will continue to evolve. But the fundamental principles of data driven
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decision making and customer centricity will always be relevant. So this deep dive has given
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us a lot to chew on. Yeah. How can our listener take all of this and actually turn it into
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action? What's the first step they can take? Well, buyer suggests starting with an audit
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of your current marketing efforts. Okay. So what's working? What's not what tools are you
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using? Are they immigrated effectively? Are you using data to inform your decisions?
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So it's like taking stock of your current situation before you start making any big changes.
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Exactly. Once you have a clear picture of where you are, you can start to identify areas
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for improvement and create a plan for moving forward. But buyers not just talking about
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reacting to the current landscape, right? No. He also encourages like being ahead of the
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curve. Oh, absolutely. He emphasizes the importance of anticipating future trends and
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being prepared to adapt. And this is where it gets really interesting. So how do we predict
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the future of digital marketing? No. Do we need a crystal ball for this? I wish it were
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that easy. Right. But buyers suggest some more practical approach. Okay. He says staying
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informed is key. Okay. That makes sense, but informed about what specifically. He recommends
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keeping an eye on emerging technologies, shifting consumer behaviors, and even changes in the
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regulatory landscape. So it's not just about the latest marketing gadgets. No. It's about
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understanding the bigger picture. It's about seeing the forest for the trees. Right.
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Buyer says attending industry conferences, reading articles and reports, and even just
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paying attention to what people are talking about online can give you valuable insights
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into where things are headed. So it's like being a trend spotter. Yeah. But for the world
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of digital marketing, exactly. Buyer argues that the best marketers aren't just reacting
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to trends. They're anticipating them. I could see how that would give you a competitive
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edge. Yeah. If you can see what's coming down the pipeline, you can start preparing now.
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Right. You can get ahead of the game. Okay. For example, what kind of trends should we
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be paying attention to? Well, buyer points out that privacy concerns are becoming increasingly
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important to consumers. Yeah. With all the data breaches and targeted advertising, people
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are definitely more aware of how their data is being used. For sure. And buyer predicts
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that this trend will only continue to grow. Okay. So marketers who are already thinking
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about how to build trust and transparency into their strategies will be ahead of the game.
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So instead of seeing privacy as a roadblock, you can see it as an opportunity to differentiate
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yourself. That's a great way to look at it. Right. It's about finding ways to use data
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responsibly and ethically. Mm-hmm. While still delivering personalized experiences
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that customers value. This has been a really insightful deep dive. I feel like I have a much
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better grasp on the key trends shaping digital marketing in 2025. Yeah. Me too.
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Buyer really provides a comprehensive roadmap for navigating this complex and ever-changing
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landscape. He does. But before we wrap up, I want to touch on something that's been on
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my mind throughout this conversation. Okay. We've talked a lot about data automation and AI.
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Yes, those are definitely key themes. But what about the human element? Yeah. With all
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this emphasis on technology, are we at risk of losing that personal touch? That's a great
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question. And one that buyer acknowledges as well. Okay. He stresses that technology should
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be used to enhance the customer experience. Mm-hmm. Not replace human interaction altogether.
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So it's about finding the right balance. It's all about balance. Right.
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Buyer encourages marketers to use data to understand their customers' needs and preferences.
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Yeah. But to also remember that they're dealing with real people with real emotions.
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So even with the best AI-powered chatbot, sometimes a human touch is still needed.
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Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person. Exactly. Right. So for our listener who's
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ready to take on the challenges of digital marketing in 2025, what's the one piece of advice
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we want them to walk away with? Well, Buyer sums it up perfectly in the article. He says,
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"Stay curious, stay agile, and never underestimate the power of human connection." I love that it's
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a reminder that digital marketing is ultimately about connecting with people. Yeah. And that
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human element will always be at the heart of it. At the end of the day, it's all about people.
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Well, that wraps up our deep dive into digital marketing in 2025. We hope this episode has
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given you some valuable insights and inspiration. It's been a pleasure. And remember, the future
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of digital marketing is yours to shape. Go out there and make it happen. Thanks for joining
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us. And until next time, keep diving deep.
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Reach out to us at jbuyer.com for comments and questions. Follow us at buyer company on social
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